Karen Blackett CBE
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Episode 7 · 3 November 2026

Maro Itoje on Leading Your Peers

with Maro Itoje

England and Saracens rugby captain Maro Itoje joins hosts Karen Blackett CBE and Katie Lloyd.

Maro reflects on his career and the lessons he has learned about leadership on and off the pitch. He discussed managing peers, staying authentic, learning from defeat, and balancing elite sport with impactful work beyond the pitch.

  1. 0:00Intro: Maro Itoje
  2. 2:51What leadership means, and the myth of one type of leader
  3. 4:38Values from his parents: “vanity, vanity”
  4. 8:27Captain at 19: leading people older than you
  5. 13:17What sport teaches, and being a role model
  6. 18:31Leading your peers
  7. 20:50Learning from losing: the 2019 World Cup final
  8. 26:36Recipe for leadership and quick-fire round

Bonus episode

Behind the scenes

Karen Blackett, Maro Itoje and Katie Lloyd on set